tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7101933101966798446.post8012692380793034907..comments2024-03-28T10:33:06.910-07:00Comments on The View from Aristeia: Publishing Effective Modern C++, Part 2Scott Meyershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05280964633768289328noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7101933101966798446.post-528157668820724232015-08-05T08:20:07.257-07:002015-08-05T08:20:07.257-07:00@Flo: Effective Modern C++ assumes that you alread...@Flo: <i>Effective Modern C++</i> assumes that you already know the basics of C++ programming, including the fundamental features of C++11. If you don't have this background, you'll probably find the book difficult to understand. <br /><br />If you're unsure whether EMC++ is the book for you, I suggest you download the free sample chapter available <a href="http://cdn.oreillystatic.com/oreilly/booksamplers/9781491903995_sampler.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a>. That will show you exactly what the book is like.Scott Meyershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05280964633768289328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7101933101966798446.post-33554969887670325532015-08-05T03:06:11.157-07:002015-08-05T03:06:11.157-07:00Hello,
I want to learn C++(with datastructure). I...Hello, <br />I want to learn C++(with datastructure). Is the effective modern c++ a good book to learn from -almost- scratch or is it only for those who have already a background ?<br />Thanks :)Flonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7101933101966798446.post-37370008102316490002015-07-13T22:02:24.787-07:002015-07-13T22:02:24.787-07:00@Javin: I'm glad you like the books!@Javin: I'm glad you like the books!Scott Meyershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05280964633768289328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7101933101966798446.post-49766724675030414272015-07-13T18:28:00.595-07:002015-07-13T18:28:00.595-07:00Thanks Scott, I really loved Effective C++ though ...Thanks Scott, I really loved Effective C++ though I am a Java developer. I have most of Effective X title in my book shelf because they always open a new window of learning. Thanks a lot ..Javinhttp://javarevisited.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7101933101966798446.post-63295504036123854852015-07-13T10:15:00.674-07:002015-07-13T10:15:00.674-07:00Of course not. I always welcome sincere feedback :...Of course not. I always welcome sincere feedback :-)Scott Meyershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05280964633768289328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7101933101966798446.post-42553896253951007362015-07-13T09:29:59.184-07:002015-07-13T09:29:59.184-07:00You are most welcome, and I would like to add that...You are most welcome, and I would like to add that I sincerely hope that you did not find the critique offensive. <br /><br />Irfan.Irfan Surdarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12287418990021042008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7101933101966798446.post-284792834429708282015-07-13T09:08:48.516-07:002015-07-13T09:08:48.516-07:00@Irfan: Thanks for your comments.@Irfan: Thanks for your comments.Scott Meyershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05280964633768289328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7101933101966798446.post-16751097087863820242015-07-13T06:28:13.770-07:002015-07-13T06:28:13.770-07:00Hello Scott,
I am listing the factors and reason...Hello Scott, <br /><br />I am listing the factors and reasons, where applicable, that I found dissuading in the order of severity. Considering that I actually did read a few slides presenting some code samples, as well, I believe that the below mentioned factors had a cumulative effect on the desire to read further. <br /><br />1. As a programmer, whenever I open a document pertaining to programming or in case of which I expect to come across at least some programming samples, I expect those samples written or presented using a fixed width font, preferably 'Courier New', or, although not my first preference, Consolas. In case of Consolas, I find that small font size also hinders the reading and comprehension part. <br /><br />2. In case of programming or coding examples or samples, unless the use of colors other than the color used for body text remains limited to only the keywords of that programming language, that can — in my case, it certainly did — hamper the progress as well. <br /><br />3. I found the blue that you have used in your examples too bright, and when you come across material, code samples in case of your slides, written in such a color often, then it probably buries the desire to read any further. <br /><br />4. The use of the Arial font face, or the font face that strikingly resembles Arial font face, for links and email addresses, especially in larger font size than the surrounding text also proved effective in dampening the desire.<br /><br />5. Narrow line spacing did not help much either. <br /><br />6. I actually found the use of Red to write your name and occupation somewhat hilarious. As a programmer and web surfer, I usually come across such usage whenever the program designer or website author wants to indicate some sort of an error. Considering that you started programming even before I was born, I certainly have failed to fathom your reason for choosing that color to write your name and designation. I would like to add, however, that this probably did not play that huge a part in deciding to stop after perusing just a few slides. <br /><br />I hope that I have conveyed all of the reasons that eventually brought to an immature end the perusal that I had started with some desire and enthusiasm. Before signing off, I would once again like to thank you for making significant number of pages available to potential buyers. <br /><br />Sincerely, <br /><br />Irfan.Irfan Surdarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12287418990021042008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7101933101966798446.post-7650627234171633282015-07-12T20:58:48.421-07:002015-07-12T20:58:48.421-07:00@Irfan: I'd be interested to know what you dis...@Irfan: I'd be interested to know what you dislike about the formatting of the training materials. They are, after all, just PDF versions of what PowerPoint produces. <br /><br />As for setting expectations, that's why I made significant excerpts of the materials available for free download: so prospective buyers would know exactly what they'd be getting.Scott Meyershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05280964633768289328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7101933101966798446.post-4552670395363275912015-07-12T19:13:34.309-07:002015-07-12T19:13:34.309-07:00Hello Scott,
The tone of your response suggests ...Hello Scott, <br /><br />The tone of your response suggests that you believe in a resolute and considered manner that the chosen layout for the “Training Materials” perfectly suits the type of material based on its purpose. Regardless of the correctness of the aforementioned, I would, based on whatsoever I had written in my initial comment, like to reiterate that after setting a high standard — in my opinion, higher than most other authors — the author then carries the additional burden of managing his or her audiences’ expectations, as well. When I compare the formatting of the “Training Materials” with your books, I feel that when working with the two, you decided to operate on two extremes: high or very high quality formatting for the books, especially the ones you published with AWL; completely ignoring the formatting and its effect on audience in case of “Training Materials.” I firmly believe that despite their lower status, you still should have chosen a middle ground, if not better. <br /><br />Nonetheless, thank you for making the excerpts available so to make it easier for the buyers to make an informed decision. <br /><br />Irfan.Irfan Surdarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12287418990021042008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7101933101966798446.post-69932676844674570372015-07-11T21:44:10.676-07:002015-07-11T21:44:10.676-07:00@Irfan: I'm sorry you didn't care for the ...@Irfan: I'm sorry you didn't care for the layout of my annotated training materials. However, I think it's important to note that they're just that--annotated training materials. They're not books. If you were expecting them to look like books, you were bound to be disappointed. That's one of the reasons I made significant excerpts of the materials available for free: I wanted people to understand what they'd be buying.Scott Meyershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05280964633768289328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7101933101966798446.post-40576522558484754152015-07-11T21:17:15.085-07:002015-07-11T21:17:15.085-07:00Hello Scott,
Although I now find elusive the viv...Hello Scott, <br /><br />Although I now find elusive the vivid details concerning the layout choices either you made or the typesetter made on your behalf for your earlier books published by AWL, however, based on whatsoever I remember, in terms of font and font size, your books certainly used to stand out as much easier to read without exacting the reader’s visual system disproportionately. As any performer’s — whether it be a movie star, a sportsman, a designer, or a technical author — past performances and choices create a certain level of expectation and establish the presumed tone for the future works from the same performer, in your case, the author of works of scholarships aimed at a particular audience, I started reading one of your “Annotated Training Materials” with high expectations. However, I found the presentation quite discouraging and an instantaneous drain on the enthusiasm with which I had started to read that material. Considering that arrangement placed the burden of presentation and preparation on your shoulders, I would like to apologize for the choice of words used to convey the dismay I felt, which still remains the sole reason for leaving after reading just a couple of pages. However, I strongly believe that had the presentation of the material met the production quality of the books you published with AWL, then you would have not only succeeded in selling an extra few PDFs but also found at least a word-of-mouth promoter, or may be an extra few. <br /><br />Once again, I would like to apologize for the choice of words; however, I wanted to convey the actual sentiment felt at the time, one which proved decisive, as well. <br /><br />Irfan.Irfan Surdarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12287418990021042008noreply@blogger.com